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Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby xroads on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:32 am

I thought of something during one of the many times when the site was down.

I wonder if someday we will all go to log in, just to find that BW has finally given up and turned the switch off. What will everyone do if CC just goes away for ever with a flip of the switch?

Dont say it cant/wont happen. BW owns CC and can turn it off on a whim. Eventually subscriptions will dwindle to the point where it starts bleeding red, and the love affair will be over.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby nietzsche on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:44 am

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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby nietzsche on Mon Oct 01, 2018 8:47 am

the last days could be epic.

cheating, multis, verbal abuse, the return of GLG, P@P, Blitz, wicked..

all while bW doesn't give a shit and has it hosted in a raspberry pi next to a light switch. and as long as Magnus keeps buying some 3 premiums per month he'll keep it there.. beer money bW will call it.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby riskllama on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:08 am

i think it's fair to assume that when it happens, there will be no announcement.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby xroads on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:23 am

riskllama wrote:i think it's fair to assume that when it happens, there will be no announcement.



Agreed, we will just in one day and site will not be found
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby Neoteny on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:33 am

God I hope so.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby HitRed on Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:50 am



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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby The_Samurai on Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:45 pm

Most definitely - this is what happened on the previous site I was playing on before finding CC. One day the site didn't exist anymore

xroads wrote:Agreed, we will just in one day and site will not be found
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby IcePack on Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:13 pm

Just a matter of how long, not a question of will it.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby rockfist on Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:36 pm

Is there a way we could sort for the number of premium players?
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby shoop76 on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:05 pm

IcePack wrote:Just a matter of how long, not a question of will it.


Coming from a guy in the know, this is scary.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:12 pm

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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby IcePack on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:25 pm

shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:Just a matter of how long, not a question of will it.


Coming from a guy in the know, this is scary.


I’m not as in the know as I used to be, but doesn’t take much to look at the underlying numbers and see it’s not good.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:35 pm

Is e_i_pi's site any good? It looks worse than CC which is hard to believe. Although in all my years I've never seen a risk site with a good design.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby shoop76 on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:38 pm

IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:Just a matter of how long, not a question of will it.


Coming from a guy in the know, this is scary.


I’m not as in the know as I used to be, but doesn’t take much to look at the underlying numbers and see it’s not good.


I'm actually surprised its still around with membership where its at and an owner who hasn't made a post in over 2 years.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby IcePack on Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:44 pm

shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:Just a matter of how long, not a question of will it.


Coming from a guy in the know, this is scary.


I’m not as in the know as I used to be, but doesn’t take much to look at the underlying numbers and see it’s not good.


I'm actually surprised its still around with membership where its at and an owner who hasn't made a post in over 2 years.


Membership went down 20% in the last 12 months, it won’t last many more years w more of the same. (6,500 to 5,200) with every summer losing ~1,000 / year. That’s not just who go away for summer and come back, that’s the overall net loss each year. Once you hit a certain point it fails to sustain and based on my experience w other sites, you hit a point where it falls apart from there v quickly.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby Symmetry on Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:14 pm

IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:
shoop76 wrote:
IcePack wrote:Just a matter of how long, not a question of will it.


Coming from a guy in the know, this is scary.


I’m not as in the know as I used to be, but doesn’t take much to look at the underlying numbers and see it’s not good.


I'm actually surprised its still around with membership where its at and an owner who hasn't made a post in over 2 years.


Membership went down 20% in the last 12 months, it won’t last many more years w more of the same. (6,500 to 5,200) with every summer losing ~1,000 / year. That’s not just who go away for summer and come back, that’s the overall net loss each year. Once you hit a certain point it fails to sustain and based on my experience w other sites, you hit a point where it falls apart from there v quickly.


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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby IcePack on Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:25 pm

rockfist wrote:Is there a way we could sort for the number of premium players?


1,824 of the current 5,180.

Caveats:
- I don’t know the yearly subscription rate vs just have a month of premium
- I don’t know how many have subscriptions that are inactive that are still paying even though they aren’t on the active list
- I don’t know how many others buy speed packs and stars and non premium related content
- I don’t know how many were gifted by others or earned credits via competitions and won free credits / premiums from contests etc (IE non paid premiums)

Note: CC also gives away premium to mods & community and a ton of contests/tournaments give away credits as well. Not factored in here
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby xroads on Mon Oct 01, 2018 4:42 pm

So $60,000 max revenue right now if he is lucky.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby shoop76 on Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:35 am

- I don’t know how many were gifted by others or earned credits via competitions and won free credits / premiums from contests etc (IE non paid premiums)


This is a good question. I suppose a lot of the very active players here have won a lot of credits. I haven't paid for premium since 2013 and have gifted quite a few premium memberships from my credits over that time. Maybe that is why the dice gods hate me so much.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby TeeGee on Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:46 am

xroads wrote:So $60,000 max revenue right now if he is lucky.



I guess we are lucky that wham does not rely on CC for income then.
CC is his baby, It is a long way from being euthanized while we still have a group of hardcore players and some blow ins, some who stay for a while and others who come and go.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby nietzsche on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:37 am

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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby xroads on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:39 am

TeeGee wrote:
xroads wrote:So $60,000 max revenue right now if he is lucky.



I guess we are lucky that wham does not rely on CC for income then.
CC is his baby, It is a long way from being euthanized while we still have a group of hardcore players and some blow ins, some who stay for a while and others who come and go.


If it is his baby, why doesnt he try to fix things?
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby Swifte on Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:07 am

xroads wrote:
TeeGee wrote:
xroads wrote:So $60,000 max revenue right now if he is lucky.



I guess we are lucky that wham does not rely on CC for income then.
CC is his baby, It is a long way from being euthanized while we still have a group of hardcore players and some blow ins, some who stay for a while and others who come and go.


If it is his baby, why doesnt he try to fix things?


Or, you know - talk to it. Supposed to be good for baby's development.
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Re: Will CC someday just be turned off?

Postby rockfist on Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:02 am

IcePack wrote:
rockfist wrote:Is there a way we could sort for the number of premium players?


1,824 of the current 5,180.

Caveats:
- I don’t know the yearly subscription rate vs just have a month of premium
- I don’t know how many have subscriptions that are inactive that are still paying even though they aren’t on the active list
- I don’t know how many others buy speed packs and stars and non premium related content
- I don’t know how many were gifted by others or earned credits via competitions and won free credits / premiums from contests etc (IE non paid premiums)

Note: CC also gives away premium to mods & community and a ton of contests/tournaments give away credits as well. Not factored in here


Thanks...did you go through screen by screen to assemble that or is there a way to sort it? I ask because its as important to know the number of premium members as it is to know the number of overall members, IMO.
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