[CC5] CCup5 - Main Thread [Winner: FALL - MVP: IcePack)

by **chemefreak** on Thu May 01, 2014 11:40 pm

TO: Keefie

Winner: FALL

Runner-up: TOFU

MVP CC5: IcePack
Runner-up: Triple 6

MVP Final: osman76
Runner-up: rcfritz

Final Results for All Rounds

show: All Final Results

show: Round of 32

show: Round of 16

show: Round of 8

show: Semifinals

show: Finals

show: Consolation

show: Seeded 16

show: random pool

show: random blind draw

LINK TO BRACKET

http://challonge.com/CCUP5Bracket

Link to Sign Ups Here.

by **chemefreak** on Thu May 01, 2014 11:41 pm

Welcome to the Fifth Annual OFFICIAL CC CONQUEROR’S CUP!!

Rewards

The Conquerors Cup is an Official CC Clan Event and as such the CD's have premium prizes to award to the winning clan, $\:D/$ 1 month per eligible clan member and we will also be awarding overall. Medals to 1st, 2nd and 3rd place Clans.

show: General Layout

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by **chemefreak** on Thu May 01, 2014 11:41 pm

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by **Armandolas** on Tue May 13, 2014 5:21 pm

I believe GON will have a tough time against ACE

by **chemefreak** on Tue May 13, 2014 6:40 pm

Private message regarding timing sent to clan contacts.

by **Bruceswar** on Tue May 13, 2014 10:22 pm

gl all

by **iAmCaffeine** on Wed May 14, 2014 4:44 am

Armandolas wrote:I believe GON will have a tough time against ACE

I see what you did there.

Some interesting match-ups, like RA vs Myth, ATL vs GR, LEG vs TWD and then TSM vs ATN. :shock:

by **chemefreak** on Wed May 14, 2014 10:44 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Armandolas wrote:I believe GON will have a tough time against ACE

I see what you did there.

Some interesting match-ups, like RA vs Myth, ATL vs GR, LEG vs TWD and then TSM vs ATN.

I saw it too.

I think there are some really good ones out there. As soon as I posted the results I started razzing thecrown on Skype...talk about a tough match for a newer clan...

by **betiko** on Wed May 14, 2014 10:59 am

looking like a possible lhdd vs pack in the round of 16!

by **IcePack** on Wed May 14, 2014 12:31 pm

Should be fun! Looking forward to it. IF we proceeded to the end our path looks like this:

32: VVV
16: RET/FAD winner
8: ACE likely
4: PACK/TSM likely
Final: TOFU/KORT likely

by **PaRKoN** on Wed May 14, 2014 3:28 pm

IcePack wrote:Should be fun! Looking forward to it. IF we proceeded to the end our path looks like this:

32: VVV
16: RET/FAD winner
8: ACE likely
4: PACK/TSM likely
Final: TOFU/KORT likely

That's a hell of path.

by **Lindax** on Wed May 14, 2014 4:03 pm

PaRKoN wrote:
IcePack wrote:Should be fun! Looking forward to it. IF we proceeded to the end our path looks like this:

32: VVV
16: RET/FAD winner
8: ACE likely
4: PACK/TSM likely
Final: TOFU/KORT likely

That's a hell of path.

It's also a hell of a lot of assuming.... :-^

Lx

by **iAmCaffeine** on Wed May 14, 2014 5:01 pm

Lindax wrote:
PaRKoN wrote:
IcePack wrote:Should be fun! Looking forward to it. IF we proceeded to the end our path looks like this:

32: VVV
16: RET/FAD winner
8: ACE likely
4: PACK/TSM likely
Final: TOFU/KORT likely

That's a hell of path.

It's also a hell of a lot of assuming....

Lx

+1

by **IcePack** on Wed May 14, 2014 5:45 pm

Lindax wrote:
PaRKoN wrote:
IcePack wrote:Should be fun! Looking forward to it. IF we proceeded to the end our path looks like this:

32: VVV
16: RET/FAD winner
8: ACE likely
4: PACK/TSM likely
Final: TOFU/KORT likely

That's a hell of path.

It's also a hell of a lot of assuming....

Lx

That's why I wrote "IF" and not if, and assumed higher seeds prevail which is pretty typical, but not guaranteed. That I figured was just understood

by **laughingcavalier** on Wed May 14, 2014 5:47 pm

Why is this starting before we even know who is in the final of the previous cup?? This is just crazy scheduling and disrespectful to the clans still playing in the previous edition. Really you should put it on ice for a while.

by **chemefreak** on Wed May 14, 2014 6:14 pm

laughingcavalier wrote:Why is this starting before we even know who is in the final of the previous cup?? This is just crazy scheduling and disrespectful to the clans still playing in the previous edition. Really you should put it on ice for a while.

Talk to your clan reps before you open your mouth here.

by **laughingcavalier** on Thu May 15, 2014 7:27 am

chemefreak wrote:
laughingcavalier wrote:Why is this starting before we even know who is in the final of the previous cup?? This is just crazy scheduling and disrespectful to the clans still playing in the previous edition. Really you should put it on ice for a while.

Talk to your clan reps before you open your mouth here.

No.

by **betiko** on Thu May 15, 2014 4:42 pm

laughingcavalier wrote:
chemefreak wrote:
laughingcavalier wrote:Why is this starting before we even know who is in the final of the previous cup?? This is just crazy scheduling and disrespectful to the clans still playing in the previous edition. Really you should put it on ice for a while.

Talk to your clan reps before you open your mouth here.

No.

by **Emmdizzle** on Sat May 17, 2014 6:59 pm

Why isnt GON playing KORT in the first round? The 3 seed gets an automatic bye??? I've never seen anything like it

by **jj3044** on Sat May 17, 2014 8:11 pm

Emmdizzle wrote:Why isnt GON playing KORT in the first round? The 3 seed gets an automatic bye??? I've never seen anything like it

They get a bye because they are CC4 finalists. The other finalist (ACE or TOFU) will get the second bye.

by **Emmdizzle** on Mon May 19, 2014 12:36 am

thanks:-)

by **smegal69** on Tue May 20, 2014 1:40 am

laughingcavalier wrote:Why is this starting before we even know who is in the final of the previous cup?? This is just crazy scheduling and disrespectful to the clans still playing in the previous edition. Really you should put it on ice for a while.

or maybe the Cup should be run on a tighter schedule so that it only takes a year, 32 clans = 5 Rounds @ 70 days for a round, and 20 days to get it up and running. :idea:

by **josko.ri** on Wed May 21, 2014 7:22 am

smegal69 wrote:
laughingcavalier wrote:Why is this starting before we even know who is in the final of the previous cup?? This is just crazy scheduling and disrespectful to the clans still playing in the previous edition. Really you should put it on ice for a while.

or maybe the Cup should be run on a tighter schedule so that it only takes a year, 32 clans = 5 Rounds @ 70 days for a round, and 20 days to get it up and running.

There have been format proposal which pretty much solves this problem, which gives to top teams byes in early rounds, so then every next CCup can very much overlap with previous CCup, you can check how the proposed format looked here (format 3a, 3b on the bottom of the post): viewtopic.php?f=443&t=187980&start=60#p4109434
However, on that time Keefie have started his sending secret pms campaign to persuade lower clans to vote against that format proposal, and we have today format which was covered with format proposals 1&2. In terms of tournament duration, format 1 which we use now is not different than format 2 which was random draw, both of them would have the same duration, so only format 3 was proposing different duration. You can check what Keefie did in this post: viewtopic.php?f=443&t=188694&p=4125305#p4125273

Because of his secret vote manipulation with sending secret pms behind the scene, while other players were instead of that writing their proposals in public threads where everyone can discuss them and give counter-opinions, we have today what we have, CCup editions which last longer than 1 years.

Format 3, if it was chosen, or if at least it was given fair voting treatment (not disturbed by his secret games behind scenes) would serve to clan world with two major advantages:
1) One edition of CCup would be several months shorter, because new edition would be possible to start earlier, because clans who progressed longer in past edition would get early byes to round of 16. As a result, clans who were eliminated early would get next chance much faster.
2) Lower clans would achieve more wins in CCup because the proposed format would ensure that two lower clans would play in round 1, and mid clans would join in round 2.

In comparing with this format where lower clans are more or less wiped out by huge margin in early round and then need to wait for more than 1 year until the next edition (some of them even stop to exist in that time period) it is pretty obvious which format is better for all clans, but in particular for lower clans. It is pity there were not enough ears to listen and that egos were too high when it was chance to do something really beneficial for CCup.

by **chemefreak** on Wed May 21, 2014 9:22 am

Anyone reading this should note that the players posting above are NOT the leaders of their clans. We have been working closely with and communicating openly with the leaders of the clans so as to avoid any issues. If the players above would simply talk to their leadership instead of spouting mindless rhetoric here it would be greatly appreciated. You will also note that my post explaining this previously was completely ignored so as to create an issue for the malcontents to complain about.

Looks like a few matches will be starting soon. So maybe some of this crap will quiet down. Cheers.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Wed May 21, 2014 9:41 am

chemefreak wrote:Anyone reading this should note that the players posting above are NOT the leaders of their clans. We have been working closely with and communicating openly with the leaders of the clans so as to avoid any issues. If the players above would simply talk to their leadership instead of spouting mindless rhetoric here it would be greatly appreciated. You will also note that my post explaining this previously was completely ignored so as to create an issue for the malcontents to complain about.

Looks like a few matches will be starting soon. So maybe some of this crap will quiet down. Cheers.

Love you cheme.

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