[Abandoned] Gondwanaland

by **Evil DIMwit** on Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:28 am

declan.west wrote:what are peoples thoughts on bonuses?

As I've said, I don't think India or Nusa are worth more than 3, or South America more than 5.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:34 am

The Bison King wrote:
5. Bonus Changes:
---Antarctica --> +5

What?! no way, that's too much.

Ah, but if you look at India and Nusa, 2 of their borders are to one territory, thus easily reducing their borders by 1 each, while in Antarctica you can;t do that. In fact, there are a couple of Antarctica's border territories that border more than one territory. I think the upped bonus is justified.

-Sully

by **Evil DIMwit** on Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:21 pm

Which is why I think India and Nusa should be reduced rather than Antarctica increased.

by **Victor Sullivan** on Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:31 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:Which is why I think India and Nusa should be reduced rather than Antarctica increased.

But see, then Terra Australis would be much easier to take for a +3 than India or Nusa. And you can't reduce Terra Australis' bonus because there are other +2's easier to take. I still stand by Antarctica's bonus raised. Look at Europe in Classic - 7 territories, 4 borders; not far off from Antarctica.

by **declan.west** on Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:33 am

Just notifying everybody that i will be away for five weeks from tomorrow, so this map will be on hold till then.
Happy holidays and Merry Christmas.

by **AndyDufresne** on Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:34 pm

Come back soon, I like the look of this map!

--Andy

by **Kochknecht** on Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:06 pm

As an upcoming geologist i really like this idea !

by **saberty** on Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:12 pm

I like it. To be a bit nit-picky...there were not humans at the time of Gondwanaland so no canoes.

On a more serious note, did you consider added Madagascar and Sir Lanka?

by **TaCktiX** on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:22 pm

Alrighty, we need some spellcheck on the map. Here's what I'm seeing:

Title Text: Be careful of the dinosaurs
Bonus Description: Attack the ancient city of Atlantis from any canoe to gain access to the other canoes around Gondwana. But Beware, the spirits of the dead city will not allow you to stay there...

Otherwise:
- I'm having difficulty seeing Central Africa and Terra Australis, the color is too bright compared to the parchment and it looks smudged anyway.
- I think the canoe bonus is a little bit big considering the need to attack Atlantis first. +4 or +3 would be better.
- The internal bodies of water are a different color from the ocean and instead of denoting them as landlocked they just look off.
- Kideny is very difficult to see with the territory line. Perhaps putting some small glow on every territory name so they stand out from the map?

by **declan.west** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:45 am

thx Saberty and TaCktiX for your input.
im back now and will get working on the map again.

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:44 am

Good. This is one of the historical periods we've been lacking maps from---pre-history!

--Andy

by **declan.west** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:05 am

TaCktiX wrote:- I'm having difficulty seeing Central Africa and Terra Australis, the color is too bright compared to the parchment and it looks smudged anyway.

at the moment i don't feel terra australis or central africa are to bright at all. are you talking about Nusa?

by **declan.west** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:12 am

i have been trying to draw a good bridge but the trouble is they are just to small to get in any good detail. are there some good examples of bridges on another map?

by **declan.west** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:32 am

Version 6

things that have been changed:
-Antarctica has an extra region named Ciateur, as of the need to change its bonus I think the best option was to add an extra region and change it to +5 bonus. This was because reducing nusa/india's bonuses would not work and previously antarctica was not equal to north africa (in my opinion)
-The region in india called 'dec' has been modified slightly to be more realistic of the shape of Gondwana.
-Lakes/inland seas have changed colour to match the outer sea
-A canoe has been added to Travi in north africa.
-The bonus for all canoes has been reduced to +4
-Other slight variations/touch ups

by **natty dread** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:58 am

What's up with territories like "Dinosauria" (why in low case?) and "Awosomia"? They sound kinda cheesy...

How did you come up with territory names, anyway?

by **declan.west** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:27 am

natty_dread wrote:What's up with territories like "Dinosauria" (why in low case?) and "Awosomia"? They sound kinda cheesy...

How did you come up with territory names, anyway?

well a lot were influenced by friends telling me to name particular places particular things and as i'm not so great at names or have much reference to go off a lot are very random. i agree some are quite cheesy. i will probably end u changing a few, thx for pointing out the lower case d.

by **00iCon** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:28 am

Perhaps go for a different naming convention on different continents. eg. (assuming Antarctica has a cold climate) Russian/Slavic names with Z's and R's. Australia could have Aboriginal sounding names like Ogaroona.

by **declan.west** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:52 pm

i like your idea 00icon, ill give it a go. I sort of wanted to avoide names the match current place names today. ill try find info on the earlist cutlures in particualr areas and that could help with naming as well.

by **TaCktiX** on Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:47 pm

I was referring to the text name of the regions, not the regions themselves. My bad for not clarifying.

by **declan.west** on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:00 am

TaCktiX wrote:I was referring to the text name of the regions, not the regions themselves. My bad for not clarifying.

ahh i see, they are to bright
thx

by **declan.west** on Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:20 am

Version 7

not many changes:
Most place names have changed. Ispiration generally from ancient areas/cities/tribe names of the particular region. Apart from antarctica/nusa.
colour of the words 'terra australis' and 'central africa' have been changed.
slight visual adjustments

by **00iCon** on Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:13 am

I really like the new names!
Looking at the rule for Atlantis, I'm not completely sure of the xml's capabilities, but most other maps tend to revert a region when a player conquers it, at the start of the conqueror's next turn.

by **Teflon Kris** on Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:39 am

00iCon wrote:I really like the new names!
Looking at the rule for Atlantis, I'm not completely sure of the xml's capabilities, but most other maps tend to revert a region when a player conquers it, at the start of the conqueror's next turn.

Slight wording change needed as Atlantis reverts to 1 at the start of your next turn. Other maps have short and easy ways ways of explaining this so it shouldn't be a big problem, maybe just delete the "and the end of your turn" bit at the end.

by **declan.west** on Mon Feb 07, 2011 12:43 am

DJ Teflon wrote:
00iCon wrote:I really like the new names!
Looking at the rule for Atlantis, I'm not completely sure of the xml's capabilities, but most other maps tend to revert a region when a player conquers it, at the start of the conqueror's next turn.

Slight wording change needed as Atlantis reverts to 1 at the start of your next turn. Other maps have short and easy ways ways of explaining this so it shouldn't be a big problem, maybe just delete the "and the end of your turn" bit at the end.

I see the problem ty. I didn't actually know at what point killer neutrals converted to neutral.
my grammar was really bad in that sentence, ill go about making it easier to understand and correct.

by **TaCktiX** on Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:12 pm

The word "access" in the bottom right is still typoed as having only one 's'.

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