First Nations of North America [Quenched]

by **MrBenn** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:18 am

If you're having problems making the background transparent, you could always screenshot CC, take a sample of the background colour, and add a solid fill of that colour as your base layer... The effect should be the same ;-)

by **lanyards** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:57 am

MrBenn wrote:If you're having problems making the background transparent, you could always screenshot CC, take a sample of the background colour, and add a solid fill of that colour as your base layer... The effect should be the same

Maybe for the screen when actually playing a game, but for posting it in updates, the background color of each post alternates between shades or greenish-gray. Not that it really matters, and that might be a better idea since PNG files tend to be larger than JPEG. But the white really looks awful in my opinion.

by **Tisha** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:07 am

MrBenn wrote:If you're having problems making the background transparent, you could always screenshot CC, take a sample of the background colour, and add a solid fill of that colour as your base layer... The effect should be the same

I have thought of that too..
and since lackattack has no plans to update the website any year soon.. :lol:

and I had already said earlier in the thread that I had plans on getting rid of the white.. so no need to tell me how awful it looks..

by **lancehoch** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:38 pm

What if instead of trying to get rid of it, you put the map on a wood background, almost as if someone had unrolled the map on an old table?

by **Risky_Stud** on Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:32 pm

lancehoch wrote:What if instead of trying to get rid of it, you put the map on a wood background, almost as if someone had unrolled the map on an old table?

Great idea!

by **Tisha** on Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:00 am

72 territories
14 bonus regions

added some wood..
split artic..

Click image to enlarge.

by **neanderpaul14** on Tue Jul 28, 2009 10:08 pm

Awesome looking map Tisha, can't wait to play on this one.

by **Erland** on Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:17 am

great graphics--the trees and mountains are more realistic than on many maps. Get it done!

by **Gamefreakguy** on Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:53 pm

I really like the idea for the map, as well as the impressive graphics! Keep it up!

by **Echospree** on Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:21 pm

Absolutely gorgeous, with a good spread of bonuses across the map. I can't find any faults at all, beyond the names of territories crossing boundaries, but I can't see a good solution for any of those.

by **cairnswk** on Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:26 pm

(if xml is done and checked) QUENCH =D>

imho.

by **grandin** on Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:25 am

Maybe you should try moving the territory names around? Don't know how your going to fit the army numbers in some of the territories otherwise... :-s

I played around a bit:

Didn't have your font, so i just picked a random one that didn't look too bad.

* Black letters, opacity 90%
** 2px outside stroke, color from within the territory, blend mode: 'lighter color'.

Dunno. I kinda liked it. Frees up space and is still readable.

by **SultanOfSurreal** on Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:53 am

Why is the greenland region called the "far north"? Weird map projection aside, Greenland is basically on the same latitude as north canada. Why not just call it "greenlandic tribes" or somesuch?

by **phantomzero** on Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:08 pm

Looking good! Nice to see the history of the lands we now live on!

by **MrBenn** on Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:33 pm

Hi Tisha - looking good (still) ;-)

I've just run the numbers through a bonus calculator:
(T=Terrs, D=Defenders, A=Attackers, N=Neighbours)

Code: Select all: CONTINENT T D A N Bonus/Round Current Far North 3 1 1 1 0.7 1 1 Arctic 8 5 5 3 5.4 5 7 SubArctic 8 5 11 6 6.7 7 7 Northeast 4 2 4 3 2.3 2 2 Northwest 4 4 5 4 3.8 4 3 Plateau 2 2 5 4 2.0 2 1 California 4 2 3 3 2.1 2 2 Great Basin 3 3 6 4 3.1 3 2 Plains 9 6 7 6 6.9 7 8 Woodlands 7 3 6 4 4.1 4 4 Southeast 7 4 5 4 4.6 5 5 Southwest 6 5 6 4 5.2 5 6 MesoAmerica 4 3 3 2 2.7 3 3 CircumCarib 3 2 2 2 1.6 2 2

In general, the bonus values you've gone for are more-or-less spot-on ;-)

The only change I'd suggest would be in the Circum-Caribbean area, which offers good option of expansion into MesoAmerica - which is still well protected. This would possibly be the best start, and allows you to defend a +5 with only 3 border terrs - one of the most lucrative combos on the map. With that in mind, I'd suggest dropping Circum to +1. Either that, or I'd suggest dropping MesoAmerica to a +2 - From Meso you can expand into Circum without much effort, and can stagger into the southwest a little without putting yourself at risk. +4 would be a fair bonus for that relatively-easily-held area - I'd favour dropping MesoAmerica to +2

I'd recommend dropping the Arctic to a 6, as it offers the better expansion from Far North/Northeast. Just bringing it down would feel a bit more balanced; a tweak to bring the Southeast to +4 would also make sense. This way the smaller bonuses don;t give direct access to stronger bonuses - if that makes sense.

Other than that, I can;t see too much to change about the gameplay ;-)

As for army numbers, I can't see anything that will obviously be a squeeze - but we'll have to wait and see

by **owenshooter** on Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:02 pm

has this thing been moved to the scrap heap yet? abandoned? JOKING!!! TISHA!!! GET TO WORK ON MY MAP!!! and don't forget the hidden "i love owen" in that top left hand corner!! a few more pixels will make it a bit more visible for me!! love the map! let's get going on it!!! looking wonderful!! love the changes!!! now get working!-0

by **Teflon Kris** on Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:44 am

Looking great - I'd consider whether the Arctic bonus should be as much as 7? Artic+Far North combination would be+8 with not that many territories to defend,and defending mostly from the Sub Artic (one difficult bonus region which players may not tend to go for). Similarly, a Carribbean & Mesomerica combination is a bit much at +5.

Edit - sorry, MrBenn has already looked at this above.

Graphically, I'm no expert but I like the style, particularly the shading, mountains and trees. Maybe the canoes would look better if they were very slightly shorter?