The Texan Wars [Quenched]

by **Elijah S** on Thu May 15, 2008 10:07 pm

Congratulations on being quenched!
I know this one took awhile, but your patience and hard work finally paid off.
Looking forward to playing this one. WTG!

by **laci_mae** on Fri May 16, 2008 1:35 am

rgbubba wrote:
laci_mae wrote:Way to go RJ. It's a dandy!

LMR

Thanks laci_mae! My name is rgbubba but you can call me RG if you like.

No harm intended. Just hit the wrong key. #-o

Big time congrats on the Quench! I'm very excited to get a few games going.

Best,
LMR

by **bigdaddyslim2** on Sun May 18, 2008 4:42 am

well im from Texas and i love the idea, but i have to say the city areas look out of place, im trying to say they don't line up half the areas are way off from where they should be. for one Waco is halfway between Fort Worth and Austin and its straight north of Austin, and Texas without the Alamo on it just ain't a map. and your dead zone is about where Texas won its independents in San Jacinto, so i thought that was funny, and i live by Austin, but if thats ok with y'all then hey good job

by **rgbubba** on Sun May 18, 2008 12:55 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:
Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Texan Wars Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

--Andy

When will we see it playable?

by **laci_mae** on Sun May 18, 2008 4:35 pm

bigdaddyslim2 wrote:well im from Texas and i love the idea, but i have to say the city areas look out of place, im trying to say they don't line up half the areas are way off from where they should be. for one Waco is halfway between Fort Worth and Austin and its straight north of Austin, and Texas without the Alamo on it just ain't a map. and your dead zone is about where Texas won its independents in San Jacinto, so i thought that was funny, and i live by Austin, but if thats ok with y'all then hey good job

Quenched means that ship has sailed. This type of input would've been helpful and welcomed sometime during the 6 months the map was in development.

LMR

by **AndyDufresne** on Sun May 18, 2008 5:04 pm

But if there is enough outcry, changes can still be request after Quench.

Always keep that in mind...nothing is necessarily Golden.

--Andy

by **laci_mae** on Sun May 18, 2008 8:18 pm

And that's what makes you a great CA. Keeping the peace and keeping it PC.

I'm very excited about this map, and I think RG promised me a game?!?!

LMR

by **rgbubba** on Sun May 18, 2008 11:13 pm

laci_mae wrote:
bigdaddyslim2 wrote:well im from Texas and i love the idea, but i have to say the city areas look out of place, im trying to say they don't line up half the areas are way off from where they should be. for one Waco is halfway between Fort Worth and Austin and its straight north of Austin, and Texas without the Alamo on it just ain't a map. and your dead zone is about where Texas won its independents in San Jacinto, so i thought that was funny, and i live by Austin, but if thats ok with y'all then hey good job

Quenched means that ship has sailed. This type of input would've been helpful and welcomed sometime during the 6 months the map was in development.

LMR

Thanks guys for addressing this area. I have looked over notes from the post added back in the design stage and found that we had address this and resolved the issues with great debate. With much thought I believe we are fine in this area. Thanks for the comments!

by **AndyDufresne** on Mon May 19, 2008 3:26 pm

One last snag:

Texan Wars

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gvf31q=

This file isn't text based. It's some wierd MS Word xml.

--Andy

by **edbeard** on Mon May 19, 2008 3:32 pm

rgbubba wrote:OK HERE YOU GO< XML >CODE:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gvf31q

rgbubba wrote:Here is the code redone: With size change in the code for map.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/os9whk

I think the bottom one is the correct one. Though, RG would have to confirm that.

by **rgbubba** on Mon May 19, 2008 5:51 pm

edbeard wrote:
rgbubba wrote:OK HERE YOU GO< XML >CODE:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gvf31q

rgbubba wrote:Here is the code redone: With size change in the code for map.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/os9whk

I think the bottom one is the correct one. Though, RG would have to confirm that.

Try the second one! TOM told me that we needed xml file so I sent the top one that was ( xml ) after the bottom one that is ( text ).

by **yeti_c** on Tue May 20, 2008 1:38 pm

yeti_c wrote:
There were 3 problems...

a) <component> tags are now replaced with <territory> tags!
Code: Select all
<continent> <name>njfnj</name> <bonus>3</bonus> <components> <component>WRONG</component> </components> <continent>

Like so
Code: Select all
<continent> <name>njfnj</name> <bonus>3</bonus> <components> <territory>CORRECT</territory> </components> <continent>

b) <continent> blocks were in the wrong place...

The file needs to be in the following order...

Code: Select all
<map> <size etc/> <minreinforcements/> <reinforcements/> <positions/> <objectives/> <continents/> <territories/> </map>

c) Leaky had a typo in (should've been leakey)

So this is the fixed XML...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/1/19/1707364/texanwars.xml

Which provides the following Results...

Warning: Territory Leakey has border Cannon 3, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Zapata has border Cannon 5, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Cannon 1 has border El Paso, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Cannon 3 has border Del Rio, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Cannon 4 has border Eagle Pass, but not vice versa

Warning: Territory Cannon 5 has border Brownsville, but not vice versa

Summary: 0 errors and 6 warnings detected in 5-14-08 code ttw.txt (13 continents, 57 territories)

C.

Please note - that I haven't checked co-ordinates,connections or contents of the Continents...

C.

by **Incandenza** on Tue May 20, 2008 4:40 pm

Not to sound like a dick or anything, but with all the xml errors for this map, how on earth did it receive an xml stamp? Isn't the xml vetted and tested and what not before that step happens?

by **AndyDufresne** on Wed May 21, 2008 12:54 am

XML is a tough job, many cartographers that write it can attest to that. Checking it is a whole different bargain, one that few (unfortunately!) can grapple with. I encourage more people to help us look into the XML, this is a community!

--Andy

by **DiM** on Wed May 21, 2008 4:41 am

actually xml isn't hard to code but it's hard to debug.
after you write hundreds or thousands of line of code it is fairly common to go over the same mistake a few times and not notice it. that's why it is better to have as many people checking it as possible.

by **yeti_c** on Wed May 21, 2008 5:55 am

DiM wrote:actually xml isn't hard to code but it's hard to debug.
after you write hundreds or thousands of line of code it is fairly common to go over the same mistake a few times and not notice it. that's why it is better to have as many people checking it as possible.

Agreed.

C.

by **bryguy** on Wed May 21, 2008 9:05 am

DiM wrote:actually xml isn't hard to code but it's hard to debug.
after you write hundreds or thousands of line of code it is fairly common to go over the same mistake a few times and not notice it. that's why it is better to have as many people checking it as possible.

eh thats why i use an application called smultron, it numbers each line, that way, when i use the xml tester on cc, ill know what line its on

by **yeti_c** on Wed May 21, 2008 9:10 am

bryguy wrote:
DiM wrote:actually xml isn't hard to code but it's hard to debug.
after you write hundreds or thousands of line of code it is fairly common to go over the same mistake a few times and not notice it. that's why it is better to have as many people checking it as possible.

eh thats why i use an application called smultron, it numbers each line, that way, when i use the xml tester on cc, ill know what line its on

Just use CTRL G

C.

by **bryguy** on Wed May 21, 2008 9:18 am

yeti_c wrote:
bryguy wrote:
DiM wrote:actually xml isn't hard to code but it's hard to debug.
after you write hundreds or thousands of line of code it is fairly common to go over the same mistake a few times and not notice it. that's why it is better to have as many people checking it as possible.

eh thats why i use an application called smultron, it numbers each line, that way, when i use the xml tester on cc, ill know what line its on

Just use CTRL G

C.

what app do u use yeti? cause the only one that ive known of that will work for me is smultron

AndyDufresne wrote:XML is a tough job, many cartographers that write it can attest to that. Checking it is a whole different bargain, one that few (unfortunately!) can grapple with. I encourage more people to help us look into the XML, this is a community!

--Andy

do u mean with peoples xml for any map, or for this map? either way i might be able to help

by **yeti_c** on Wed May 21, 2008 10:03 am

bryguy wrote:what app do u use yeti? cause the only one that ive known of that will work for me is smultron

Notepad and Textpad both have CTRL G functions that allow you to type in a line number.

C.

by **RjBeals** on Wed May 21, 2008 12:31 pm

Greaskmonkey, Map Inspect doesn't show the indian territ Towakwa connected to Lubock. Is that xml correct?

by **yeti_c** on Wed May 21, 2008 1:33 pm

I don't know RJ...

yeti_c wrote:Please note - that I haven't checked co-ordinates,connections or contents of the Continents...

C.

by **bryguy** on Wed May 21, 2008 1:39 pm

yeti_c wrote:
bryguy wrote:what app do u use yeti? cause the only one that ive known of that will work for me is smultron

Notepad and Textpad both have CTRL G functions that allow you to type in a line number.

C.

eh i cant use either with my mac