American Civil War [Quenched]

by **happy2seeyou** on Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:04 pm

I have not read anyone elses comments and I am looked at the map on page one... Is the river supposed to be that bright?

by **yamahafazer** on Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:00 am

oaktown wrote:In addition to bringing down the color, what if the land beveled off at the river's edges, just as it does at the shoreline?

Me thinks oaktown has a good idea here... It mabe just what the river needs to get everyone to like it.

by **Elijah S** on Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:33 am

reverend_kyle wrote:I was just trying to figure out a way to resolve the Blue/Grey with the sepia feel and I realized...

Why not do both. I noticed your greys are mostly the same, but the blue colors have changed. Is there a way you could bring back the old colors with a sepia tint to it.

I'm working on putting together a variation of the current map to reintroduce the blue-gray colors.
When the two maps are worked a little more I'll put them up in a poll and see which one most prefer.

I've also noted other recent input and will make the changes I think will benefit the map.

by **Unit_2** on Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:27 pm

wow, now thats a update from before, nice job :wink:

by **Elijah S** on Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:58 pm

Notable Changes:

- Main legend fonts have been realigned and the brown changed to more closely match Beauregard's states.
-The guide line that was onder "Hold All:" has been taken out.
-The CSS Manassas has been moved slightly away from the mouth of the river.
-The rivers have been recolored and a bevel placed around them.
-The texture in the ocean has been dulled some and made to gradually fade.
-The overall tone has been lightened some.
-Vicksburg has replaced Memphis as one of the south's key cities.
-Some more borders have been thinned a little and pixelation worked on.

Just to address some of the recently suggestions...
The bevel around the river I think improves it but I'm going to try to make the rivers a little thinner. The color of the river, I like.

Lee and Jackson's colors are sufficiently different and clear to tell what's what.

The ship's names are slightly smaller than the state names, and appropriate.

Note- The 3 Confederate ships DO touch land and I'm not changing this. It was a way to attribute southern "ownership" of these ships without placing attack lines, which would have confederate ships attacking confederate states. They DO still attack each other, but it's more understated.

Again, when this map has reached a point where all valid issues have been addressed, I'll be making one which will use a blue instead of the current color of Sherman's states. -This will go to a poll later.

My "to do" list:
-Work on river width and try different bevels.
-Continue border work.

Website · by **Bad Speler** on Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:06 pm

wow, this map certainly looks much better than the previous draft I saw...I have but two complaints.

Borders look a bit too thick, and the white names stand out too much from the dark background of the map.

by **Coleman** on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:09 am

A lot of programmers use white on black for readability.

A lot of programmers also wear glasses...

I'm not sure if graying the lettering would be a good idea or not, we probably would need to see it. I don't feel there is a problem though.

by **Tisha** on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:54 am

i like the white territory names.. easy to read

by **oaktown** on Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:59 am

Tisha wrote:i like the white territory names.. easy to read

I agree... it keeps the map clean.

by **Elijah S** on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:39 pm

oaktown wrote:
Tisha wrote:i like the white territory names.. easy to read

I agree... it keeps the map clean.

I third that...
After messing with dulling the white down I found it added nothing to the map, so the font will remain white.
I am still playing with the borders, and where there's obvious thickness differences I'm trying to make them more uniform.

Planning to put the sepia version and the blue-gray version up to a vote, possibly as soon as tonight.

Thanks for the recent input...

by **edbeard** on Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:54 pm

I still think the river stands out a bit too much. I'd like to at least see a version with it being the same colour as the ocean.

by **Haywood Jablomie** on Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:41 pm

look forward to playing it

by **oaktown** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:03 am

the blue and grey version still has the flags in the great lakes, and I hadn't noticed this before but Lake Michigan look like a 4th of July neck tie.

You're still working on some edges, right? Because it's funny that in both maps the lakes cast a shadow.

by **Elijah S** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:05 am

Map A - Earthtones

Map B - Blue/Gray

Notable differences:
-The color schemes
-The river's now match the ocean color
-Flags have been put in the blue-gray version
-A new texture in the blue-gray
-Gettysburg has replaced Philadelphia as a key northern city

The two maps are now in a poll which will determine what color scheme gets quenched.

When the poll has been decided some additional fine-tuning will be done to only the map which is selected by the CC Community.

by **Suzy1** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:09 am

Oaktown, I think the shadow you are referring to is a bevel. I love these maps. My only problem is deciding which one to vote for. However, I have always been parital to the blue and the gray with the flags. You have done a fantastic job combining the colors. Looks like a quencher to me.

by **DukeToshiro** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:48 am

Elijah S wrote:-Vicksburg has replaced Memphis as one of the south's key cities.

Cool, a suggestion of mine made it into a CC map! This map looks like a ton of fun and I can't wait to play it. Great job!

by **reverend_kyle** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:29 am

this map has come a long way.

by **Top Dog** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:20 pm

Looks cool!

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:47 pm

Indeed it has, Reverend Kyle! Some of my favorite maps are those that truly develop and evolve...and this map certainly fits that case!

I voted for the blue/gray...it seems to reflect a mood the map should have.

It's looking good Elijah!

--Andy

by **Unit_2** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:04 pm

i see around the name "Louisiana" there is bright blue its really sticking out to me.

though for the maps i like A better but you need to add the flags and stuff like you did to B without the blue/grey.

also i like the blue better in the B map, how about you try to change the blue in A to that color(the Sherman area blue).

by **Elijah S** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:52 pm

Unit_2 wrote:i see around the name "Louisiana" there is bright blue its really sticking out to me.

though for the maps i like A better but you need to add the flags and stuff like you did to B without the blue/grey.

also i like the blue better in the B map, how about you try to change the blue in A to that color(the Sherman area blue).

I don't see what you mean about the blue around Louisiana...

As for your other comments, these are the choices and I'm not planning to do anything further to the color schemes.
The flags in the blue-gray version clashed with the color scheme in the earthtone version and that's why they were left out.

by **Elijah S** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:56 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Indeed it has, Reverend Kyle! Some of my favorite maps are those that truly develop and evolve...and this map certainly fits that case!

I voted for the blue/gray...it seems to reflect a mood the map should have.

It's looking good Elijah!

--Andy

Thanks Andy... this has been a real learning experience for me, and while some of the input during this project really got to me, I have to admit that they made me even more determined to make this a great map.

by **AndyDufresne** on Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:48 pm

Glad to hear it and glad that you stuck through. I hope you've got some other ideas to work on after this map!

--Andy

by **Lord Zod** on Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:47 am

I think you should get rid of the cities as some of the ones chosen were not that major during the civil war plus you would be getting a bonus simply for having a territory which some would have with the drop. Also the capitals should be separate territories if the are going to have a bonus.

This map does look interesting though and I hope you can work it out soon.

by **spiesr** on Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:22 am

Lord Zod wrote:I think you should get rid of the cities as some of the ones chosen were not that major during the civil war plus you would be getting a bonus simply for having a territory which some would have with the drop. Also the capitals should be separate territories if the are going to have a bonus.

This map does look interesting though and I hope you can work it out soon.

You could be dropped on any continent, I don't see how these would be any worse.
They are separate territories...

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